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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertree View Post
    http://www.fastseduction.com/copyright.shtml

    Read these sections:



    As I read that, it means you can put your stuff on your site, but here you are putting it on someone else's site and it is not being published exclusively by the author, but by you and us jointly.



    Given that you would not be the only person reposting masf posts, this place becomes a collection by their definition.

    The easiest way to get a site taken down is to complain to the host that it is publishing copyrighted material.

    We have the rule in place to prevent that.

    All copyrighted material from other sites is to be linked to and commented on, but not posted here.

    We could be wrong, but we'd rather be safe than sorry. We want to put what time and money we have into making this the best site we can, not fighting over copyrights in court.

    Everyone knows where to find your old material on masf. It is not lost if you do not repost it here. And you can link to it legally as long as you attribute it to them, and then discuss it here. You could also rewrite and update it and post it here as new material.
    The problem is that you're giving them traffic that they don't deserve. You're also placing a burden on authors, something that the authors never agreed to when posting over at fastseduction. I always understood it to be - and the writing in their warning sections are very clear - that I have granted them a NON EXCLUSIVE copyright. If it's non exclusive, it means they can't prevent me from doing anything I want with my own writing.

    The net effect of this policy will be a chilling effect on posting here and funnelling traffic to the old site that they don't deserve. And for those of us who do want to re-post our old stuff, you will force us to place it elsewhere. I am going to turn my old stuff into a book, but unless and until your policy changes, those efforts and that traffic won't be permissible on this site. Please consider, thank you.

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    Silvertree,

    This is all a stretch- The bottom line is I have a non-exclusive copywrite agreement which allows me to post my own personal material anywhere I want without permission.
    Fast Seduction and I share those rights.. I do however lose the right to grant someone else exclusive copywrite which limits my ability to publish a book for example.

    I can't limit what they do with my work, they can't limit me either.
    The quotes you posted are in regards to other peoples work, collections, and parts of the actual web-page.


    The reason this is important is because if I spend a lot of time on a new post.. (wrapping on a good long one about how to make your own 3D-Porn films on the cheap)
    I want to be able to post this to many sites I frequent including my local lair.

    I simply can't post original content here if it won't be allowed as I'm interested in the most pairs of eyes reading and responding to my work.

    I did send a letter to fastseduction seeking verifiable clarification.

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    I did send a letter to fastseduction seeking verifiable clarification.
    That would be great. Can you send me a copy if you get it?

    I am not a lawyer, and am making the most cautious reading of their copyright statement.

    I expect trouble from them. I don't want to make it worse.

    If there are any lawyers in the membership, it would be great if they could step forward and offer an opinion. My only guide is my ability to read English and infer meaning from what is written.

    If we can get this straightened out and it is safe for this site to carry reposts, I am cool with it. But as the guy responsible for this place, I have to put safety first.
    The older the violin, the sweeter the music. Augustus McCrae

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvertree View Post
    That would be great. Can you send me a copy if you get it?

    I am not a lawyer, and am making the most cautious reading of their copyright statement.

    I expect trouble from them. I don't want to make it worse.

    If there are any lawyers in the membership, it would be great if they could step forward and offer an opinion. My only guide is my ability to read English and infer meaning from what is written.

    If we can get this straightened out and it is safe for this site to carry reposts, I am cool with it. But as the guy responsible for this place, I have to put safety first.
    For sure.. If I get a response I'll paste it here.

    ..

    Fair enough with the safety first-

    IMHO i think you're entirely, without a reason of a doubt in the clear.

    best,
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    Actually the copyright sharing is quite fair and ahead of its time, when you think about more recent stuff, like CC.

    mASF doesn't retain an exclusive copyright to MY material, else I would NEVER post there. They only "share" the copyright, in that they too can copy and re-print the stuff I wrote there as they see fit. This includes books, btw. They are still MY articles, that I can do with whatever the FUCK I like (as long as I stay a member). I can even delete them from mASF, in which case the copyright is returned fully back to me (likewise the copyright is fully given to mASF if I end my membership without "taking with me" my articles). Asside from that there is always "fair use" and quotation.

    This is the normal way freelancers work (except for the deletion-part), btw. They let the newspaper print their stuff, but as the creator they can of course sell their stuff onto other newspapers as well. Exclusive rights to your content is MUCH more worth, and normally no one would enter such an aggreement unless the pay was very high or you get other benefits like, say, royalties. The newspaper only OWN the article if the journalist works there, but then it's no longer freelancing either.

    When working freelance the professional rule is also, unless anything else is agreed, you retain the copyrigth to your own work (tho there might be differences depending on the business culture of your country or region).

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    So... is this still a thing? I mean, mASF bit the dust a long time ago. Can we get rid of this policy?

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