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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post

    Find out where all the students go out - there'll be student events in your students union that will be cheaper than going out in the town. Not that the town is expensive if you go to a normal type of bar/club..its transport which is the issue..the place is so fuckin big


    IMO your biggest blunder was going to uni in London..its a working city, not fuck-fest student friendly IMO. Just to do anything basic there will take you 1-2 hours...its a terrible place to live in my experience...sure you can get majorly laid but its not the most student friendly place
    Exactly... For world-class universities, London is hard to beat... But if you are not attending a London uni for prestige, but with the aim of partying / getting laid, then other places are much more suitable.

    As a side note, this is why I always found surprising when guys specifically go out to central London (say Trafalgar square) to daygame, but live themselves miles away. A total waste of time. They should either relocate to zone 1, or live in other "cool" areas, like Dalston or Brixton where they will have plenty of girls to hit on the minute they venture out of their house.

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    I'm currently in the same boat as you (besides the age thing) and I'm struggling. I was confounded as to why my cold approaches in Vegas nightclubs were way better than how I am doing at school. I had a theory and have recently read an article that confirms my suspicions.

    "Lone wolf game in college is shit"

    College is 90% social circle game. The mainstream tenets of pickup dont necessarily apply in the same way because there are different priorities. Essentially girls want social status and fun. For this they will sacrifice alphaness, confidence, style, and good game if they can gain more status and fun somewhere else. The guy who can get them in all the parties/popular events and is the social animal will always prevail when these are the priorities for many college girls. Of course that doesnt mean cold approach wont work, it just seems to be far inferior from my experience.

    For example, girls in college will almost never go out alone. Even in my best sets where the girl is almost in love with me, the friends will almost never let some rando lone wolf pull their friend and possibly damage their social status in doing so (my experience is referring mostly to night game though). Women are risk averse, and have far much to lose when social status is at stake. The main exception to this rule seems to be graduate students and older girls who were not in a sorrority/actively a part of the social hierarchy. These girls have a limited social circle with closer friends who will be less judgemental, so the reward vs risk ratio is higher for them. These are the girls who tend to go out in pairs as opposed to larger groups.

    So my advice to you is work the social circle game like none other because that will probably 90% more efficient than cold approach night game.

    Day game is different, but from my experience it's inherently less effective on a college campus even moreso than cold approach night game. Being a social hierarchy, college is cliquey and being approached by a random unverified stranger poses more risk to a girl than operating within her own social circle. Human beings are afraid of change, so most girls inclinations are to go with what they are comfortable with rather than the crap shoot of meeting new randos, and add that to the fact that cold approaching at night is much more socially calibrated than in daytime (almost no one on my campus is cold approaching girls during the day). Not to say that it is impossible though, especially if its a super social vibe that could lead to a social circle expansion. To be completely fair, im not huge on daygame at the moment and Im under the assumtion that English University is a similar setting to many american ones.

    Heres the article I wish I read a few months ago:

    https://m.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/co...tart_thinking/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Blaze View Post
    I'm currently in the same boat as you (besides the age thing) and I'm struggling. I was confounded as to why my cold approaches in Vegas nightclubs were way better than how I am doing at school. I had a theory and have recently read an article that confirms my suspicions.

    "Lone wolf game in college is shit"

    College is 90% social circle game. The mainstream tenets of pickup dont necessarily apply in the same way because there are different priorities. Essentially girls want social status and fun. For this they will sacrifice alphaness, confidence, style, and good game if they can gain more status and fun somewhere else. The guy who can get them in all the parties/popular events and is the social animal will always prevail when these are the priorities for many college girls. Of course that doesnt mean cold approach wont work, it just seems to be far inferior from my experience.

    For example, girls in college will almost never go out alone. Even in my best sets where the girl is almost in love with me, the friends will almost never let some rando lone wolf pull their friend and possibly damage their social status in doing so (my experience is referring mostly to night game though). Women are risk averse, and have far much to lose when social status is at stake. The main exception to this rule seems to be graduate students and older girls who were not in a sorrority/actively a part of the social hierarchy. These girls have a limited social circle with closer friends who will be less judgemental, so the reward vs risk ratio is higher for them. These are the girls who tend to go out in pairs as opposed to larger groups.

    So my advice to you is work the social circle game like none other because that will probably 90% more efficient than cold approach night game.

    Day game is different, but from my experience it's inherently less effective on a college campus even moreso than cold approach night game. Being a social hierarchy, college is cliquey and being approached by a random unverified stranger poses more risk to a girl than operating within her own social circle. Human beings are afraid of change, so most girls inclinations are to go with what they are comfortable with rather than the crap shoot of meeting new randos, and add that to the fact that cold approaching at night is much more socially calibrated than in daytime (almost no one on my campus is cold approaching girls during the day). Not to say that it is impossible though, especially if its a super social vibe that could lead to a social circle expansion. To be completely fair, im not huge on daygame at the moment and Im under the assumtion that English University is a similar setting to many american ones.

    Heres the article I wish I read a few months ago:

    https://m.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/co...tart_thinking/
    There are tons of opportunities to pick up girls as a stag in college. You definitely don't have to be 'life of the party/center of attention' to get laid in college. I don't know about where you live but in my experience, daygame or nightgame opportunities was at its height at university, regardless of how you cut it. I have a feeling you haven't experienced that it gets sort of worse. PUA principles always apply. Also, semantic here, but how can it not apply? Big part of PUA is having a strong social game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRwestk View Post
    There are tons of opportunities to pick up girls as a stag in college. You definitely don't have to be 'life of the party/center of attention' to get laid in college. I don't know about where you live but in my experience, daygame or nightgame opportunities was at its height at university, regardless of how you cut it. I have a feeling you haven't experienced that it gets sort of worse. PUA principles always apply. Also, semantic here, but how can it not apply? Big part of PUA is having a strong social game.
    Just my experience. I go to a standard Big Ten University that is pretty cliquey. More or less what you'd consider mainstream for a big school, and these are my experiences. Again, nothing is impossible, I have just noticed that cold approach is much less effective, even compared to the night clubs in las vegas with much hotter, older, more experienced girls. It's just a matter of priorities for the female. If she can get sex from the "plug" and then move up the social ladder, often she will pass over the alpha who will give her the child with the stronger genes because this isn't her priority at the moment. This article just confirms and expands on the theory I was developing while doing tons of cold approach night game and a little day game at school. Something else I read that also makes sense is that cold approach gaming girls 18-23 (the age of most college girls) gives you unreliable results. They aren't experienced enough to know what they want and they are fickle, but gaming girls in their late 20s will be a good indicator of how your game is going. They will respond much more predictably to good game and bad game respectively. This is not only true in my experience, it's very important to know.

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    Coming up to half way through, and I'm further away than ever before. I honestly can't see it happening, at the moment. I had banged a personal best of 7 chicks in the preceding 4 months, but have since been drawing blanks like a eunuch.

    Returning to education has reminded me of the chicks from my school days. Cliquey, indecisive, unreliable, asexual and generally in LJBF mode. London has the worst kind of cliques, because it's not defined by status or personality, it's defined by nationalities. I don't know ANYONE or even heard of anyone who has managed to get laid. The biggest problem is that my uni has only had 3 parties in almost 9 weeks of being here. So there is no campus party scene. I can't visit other uni parties, as I don't know anyone there. There are student events held at mainstream clubs during the week, but I've been frequenting these places since the dawn of man. The girls there are harder to bang than the girls you find on the weekend, as they arrive in large groups and stick to each other like death is around the corner.

    I've not actively gamed on campus, but I've closed (generally Snapchat) at least 20 chicks who have ended up near me. None of them have gone anywhere. I've tried every method to no avail.

    My uni has almost 30,000 students, so you are genuinely seeing new girls every week. The problem is that the slow burn strategy has completely failed me. I closed a few chicks, hoping to pepper them frequently in person, but there are some I've yet to see 4 weeks after meeting them. This has led me to close quicker and opt for the Snapchat route, hoping that I can keep them burning over that. The problem there has been that whilst they respond, they refuse to meet, because the initial time spent was so little. For me, there seems to be a major correlation between initial time spent, and likelihood of a Day 2. My last 3 lays from Daygame all involved an insta-date.

    I'm doing lone wolf game at uni, and it literally is sucking ass, to the point that I'm thinking of giving up. I can't do the social circle thing, because I'm an introvert and I can't socialise like that. I don't have the energy or desire for it. I have friends constantly asking me to join them, but I reject them. I'd rather do it alone, and most people just come in the way from the goal of getting laid. Everyone is also much younger than me, so they are generally like a bunch of kids. I can't pretend to be their friends for the sake of pussy.

    Bacchus suggested to game off campus, but I have found that to be incredibly inefficient, due to the fact that I am not seeing any/enough opportunities. Especially, when the girls I'm seeking are all on campus. The library is especially chock full of them. It's cold as fuck here, and everyone on the street looks completely depressed to be outside. I have been forced to travel almost an hour away to malls which has enough footfall to make day game worthwhile, and also visiting Central London which is about 30 minutes away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey_lover View Post
    Coming up to half way through, and I'm further away than ever before. I honestly can't see it happening, at the moment. I had banged a personal best of 7 chicks in the preceding 4 months, but have since been drawing blanks like a eunuch.

    Returning to education has reminded me of the chicks from my school days. Cliquey, indecisive, unreliable, asexual and generally in LJBF mode. London has the worst kind of cliques, because it's not defined by status or personality, it's defined by nationalities. I don't know ANYONE or even heard of anyone who has managed to get laid. The biggest problem is that my uni has only had 3 parties in almost 9 weeks of being here. So there is no campus party scene. I can't visit other uni parties, as I don't know anyone there. There are student events held at mainstream clubs during the week, but I've been frequenting these places since the dawn of man. The girls there are harder to bang than the girls you find on the weekend, as they arrive in large groups and stick to each other like death is around the corner.

    I've not actively gamed on campus, but I've closed (generally Snapchat) at least 20 chicks who have ended up near me. None of them have gone anywhere. I've tried every method to no avail.

    My uni has almost 30,000 students, so you are genuinely seeing new girls every week. The problem is that the slow burn strategy has completely failed me. I closed a few chicks, hoping to pepper them frequently in person, but there are some I've yet to see 4 weeks after meeting them. This has led me to close quicker and opt for the Snapchat route, hoping that I can keep them burning over that. The problem there has been that whilst they respond, they refuse to meet, because the initial time spent was so little. For me, there seems to be a major correlation between initial time spent, and likelihood of a Day 2. My last 3 lays from Daygame all involved an insta-date.

    I'm doing lone wolf game at uni, and it literally is sucking ass, to the point that I'm thinking of giving up. I can't do the social circle thing, because I'm an introvert and I can't socialise like that. I don't have the energy or desire for it. I have friends constantly asking me to join them, but I reject them. I'd rather do it alone, and most people just come in the way from the goal of getting laid. Everyone is also much younger than me, so they are generally like a bunch of kids. I can't pretend to be their friends for the sake of pussy.

    Bacchus suggested to game off campus, but I have found that to be incredibly inefficient, due to the fact that I am not seeing any/enough opportunities. Especially, when the girls I'm seeking are all on campus. The library is especially chock full of them. It's cold as fuck here, and everyone on the street looks completely depressed to be outside. I have been forced to travel almost an hour away to malls which has enough footfall to make day game worthwhile, and also visiting Central London which is about 30 minutes away.
    It's a popular fallacy that uni is a fuckfest. There are some universities in UK that have reputations as "party uni" but they are certainly not London ones. Your best bet to get laid in a major way with chicks from your uni is social circle - especially if you stand out in some major way (popularity / coolness wise) - and judging from what you wrote, you don't. The guys who get laid the most are typically in sport societies, like rugby. In the two elite universities, Oxbridge, they also have their own private "high society" parties / orgies (LOL), but unless you are a member of the aristocratic clan / rich, you are unlikely to get into them.

    In my thread, you asked where I daygame... The answer is, everywhere and anywhere. Most of the time I don't even specifically go out with the sole intention of approaching. To give you an idea, I hooked up with women who I met in Finsbury Park, Greenwich, Mile End...Just where I happened to be at the time. Of course, there are times when I do go out to approach....Then I'd head to more specific areas. But I'd never set foot in a mall or other typical PUA location like Oxford St...That kind of hustle and bustle is not my scene. I prefer a little bit more low key, less hectic environment.

    The daygame success strongly depends on your location. For this reason I always strive to live near the centre...Not right in Zone 1 (can't afford it), but nearby...Think places like Camden, Angel, Bethnal Green, Brixton. I'd literally venture out of my flat and just take a stroll with a flat white in my hand...And invariably an attractive girl would pass. Then another. Cool areas, plenty of transient visitors and more permanent residents. Also well-connected to other parts of London by transport. That's where you want to be to facilitate daygame.. Otherwise logistics are too painful in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V man View Post
    IThe guys who get laid the most are typically in sport societies, like rugby. In the two elite universities, Oxbridge, they also have their own private "high society" parties / orgies (LOL), but unless you are a member of the aristocratic clan / rich, you are unlikely to get into them.
    I very much doubt people at oxbridge are holding regular orgies lol lol lol - its more work ridiculously hard and get drunk with your poncy friends

    Yeh..I dont know anyone that went to uni in London...youd be better off in a place like:

    Manchester
    Leeds
    Bristol
    Brighton
    Newcastle

    , if you wanted to have regular fuckfests.

    Hey_lover - see if you can do a transfer to another uni and get the heck out of london..its a huge working city and not conducive to partying 4 nights a week.

    I remember when I was at uni, we would party 4 nights a week minimum, skive all lectures etc..and still get away with it...and if you go to a medium sized uni (10-15k people) in a medium to smallish city, you'll see a lot of regulars on certain nights = golden opportunities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    I very much doubt people at oxbridge are holding regular orgies lol lol lol - its more work ridiculously hard and get drunk with your poncy friends


    Hey_lover - see if you can do a transfer to another uni and get the heck out of london..its a huge working city and not conducive to partying 4 nights a week.

    I remember when I was at uni, we would party 4 nights a week minimum, skive all lectures etc..and still get away with it...and if you go to a medium sized uni (10-15k people) in a medium to smallish city, you'll see a lot of regulars on certain nights = golden opportunities
    It was an exaggeration about oxbridge of course - but these things do indeed happen. Plus while of course in general students there work extremely hard, not everyone does that - some still scrape doing minimum work required and graduate with a 2:2 (which is basically equivalent to a 2:1 from most other places) - this is coming from the experience of some of my old friends who studied there...

    Speaking as a guy who studied at London uni, while there is certainly a huge amount of opportunities to party, the sheer size of London causes all the students to scatter all over the place. Universities here certainly lack the coherent student body feel compared to other cities, but what would one expect from London? That's not to say that there's still plenty of fun to be had here.

    Regarding transferring to another uni - well, the question is: did the OP go to uni with the sole intention of partying, or actually studying and getting a worthwhile degree? With the current financial / job market climate, and ridiculously high course fees, simply pissing away 3-4 years is not the best of ideas (it never would have been anyway, regardless of era).

    P.S. I can definitely confirm both Bristol and Brighton are a great choice for a uni experience.

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    I'm probably saying something which is the obvious or has already been said to me, but I'm trying to understand it as I go along.

    I've totally fucked up being the lone wolf guy. It doesn't work on campus. Obviously.

    I've been rather baffled by the LJBF attitude every girl in Uni seems to have, but the truth is, I have forgotten how relationships occur in education. Looking back to my school days, it's not like there was a good looking chap who wasn't part of a group that went around picking off girls. No such character ever existed within the parameters of the institution. The way most couples hooked up was almost identical. You had a group of boys who befriended a group of girls, and then within that larger group, couples would emerge and people would fuck. The access to her pussy was always friends first, lover possibly second a few months later in a party where she's drunk and she confesses her crush. I can't think of a single relationship I witnessed in my early education years where they were lovers first. Sexual relationships were built over time through friendship and groups of friends, not via typical fast seduction tactics.

    I'm a half-way through my first year and wondering how I can change my game plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey_lover View Post
    I've been rather baffled by the LJBF attitude every girl in Uni seems to have, but the truth is, I have forgotten how relationships occur in education. Looking back to my school days, it's not like there was a good looking chap who wasn't part of a group that went around picking off girls. No such character ever existed within the parameters of the institution. The way most couples hooked up was almost identical. You had a group of boys who befriended a group of girls, and then within that larger group, couples would emerge and people would fuck. The access to her pussy was always friends first, lover possibly second a few months later in a party where she's drunk and she confesses her crush. I can't think of a single relationship I witnessed in my early education years where they were lovers first. Sexual relationships were built over time, not via typical fast seduction tactics.

    I'm a half-way through my first year and wondering how I can change my game plan.
    Yeah if you're in a social circle setting you want to play social circle game. Its not just "in education," its any case where you're living your life within some sort of smaller established social community.

    You describe immediate social circle lays here ("friends first, lovers second months later"), but I find extended social circle to be pretty solid for fast lays within these settings. Like, you roll with your group to a house party where someone from your group introduces you to this girl who's from another group, and you end up fucking her that night. To this day most of the hottest girls i've fucked came about this way.

    You can still cold approach on campus (go about your day style, I would never "sarge"), but if you don't have some group to invite her into and are this campus loner (and you can become known as this within an ongoing social context like school life), it'll be much more of an uphill battle. If you could cold approach the girl in line with you at the student bookstore, and invite her casually to go drinking with your friends that night, it'd come off a lot more natural to how people normally meet.

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