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    Mind Prep to Allow Hardcore Intermittent Fasting

    -disclaimer - this is in no way intended as medical advice.
    -caution - fasting may lead to illness/injury, especially if physical activity levels are not adjusted.

    The nature of living things is to survive (eat) and reproduce. This goes all the way down to a cellular level. It is at the very core of 'life as we know it'. Consequently, any non-full living being, will respond to finding suitable food, by eating. Unless there is an active signal to the contrary. All this means that there are only 2 ways Fasting can actually happen:
    -prevent the finding of suitable food. (Solution - start with zero high-temptation foods in the house, and buy only what you plan to eat that day.)
    -provide a signal of sufficient strength and continuity to prevent eating. (The main scope of this article.)

    A very clear idea when- and how much you are going to eat, is the absolute minimum requirement. Without it, the mind will constantly look for creative ways to justify eating sooner, rather than later. (Because its in your NATURE, remember?) I can not emphasize enough, how important this is with regard to success in fasting. Without this, a continous signal to not eat, becomes impossible.

    Ideas/thoughts come in various forms, but for absolute clarity, nothing beats a picture a.k.a. vision. For me personally, the following type of calendar with a distinct color coding for NO-food-days, has proven to be extremely effective. Its somehow easy to remember a combination of week-day and color. below is an example of a calendar I used in the past, when doing 3 fasting days pr week, and only a single (large) meal on food-days. It creates a strong link between Monday/Thursday/Saturday and the color RED and it being a NO-FOOD-day.




    Time for some more cautioning. Doing 4 meals pr week for 10 weeks, is what I consider 'hardcore'. Outside of short walks, I did no exercise during the period, and dropped from 94kg to 79kg. It never felt unhealthy, except lack of physical energy, BUT when I started going to the gym after ending the fasting, I was prone to very bad joint injuries. (the type that is painful and lasts for weeks/months). Consider yourself warned: you need to re-introduce exercise very gradually.

    Another thing that helped immensely, was to consume a spoon of dry cocoa powder dissolved in hot water, when the hunger got really bad. Cocoa is rich in minerals, to protect us from going deficient during the fasting period. It also contains certain compounds that have mild toxicity in high doses, leading the body to reduce hunger as a sort of defense mechanism versus eating too much of such foods. Try eating a large serving of dark chocolate, and you will know what I speak of.

    Summary
    -Create a visually strong fasting calendar/plan
    -Empty your house of high temptation sweets/foods. Buy Cocoa powder.
    -Consider reducing your exercise regime.

    Edit - Forgot to mention another thing I do to curb hunger, in addition to the cocoa powder.. When I do eat, I eat mostly meat and cheese - foods that digest slowly while providing a steady stream of energy to the body. (The worst thing you could eat is a very high carb meal, due to blood sugar drop after initial surge, producing very strong hunger.)
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    here is the problem ijjjji, now you are setting people up to fail, you want to make it easy, actionable,sustainable and enjoyable...How many people other than you have you field tested this with and what were the results...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skills360 View Post
    here is the problem ijjjji, now you are setting people up to fail, you want to make it easy, actionable,sustainable and enjoyable...How many people other than you have you field tested this with and what were the results...
    Appreciate the feedback, Skills!
    -I cant do what you ask, because this post is about HARDCORE, specificly.
    -For people looking for more 'enjoyable', I suggest Warrior Diet. (1 meal pr day)
    -For people looking to train hard while fasting, I suggest Leangains.com. (BEWARE though - LG probably even more hardcore than what I suggest here, not so much due to the fasting, but due to SQUAT and DEADLIFT while fasting.. Ive tried it twice and failed completely both times. (*hunger from hell*) Hence the birth of the system outlined here, which works great for me personally.)
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    I'm willing to do grueling things if the reward is there. what's the benefit to this over just warrior diet? I essentially been doing the warrior diet for 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Gignac View Post
    I'm willing to do grueling things if the reward is there. what's the benefit to this over just warrior diet? I essentially been doing the warrior diet for 6 years.
    -The answer depends heavily on your goals and lifestyle. If you dont have that 'last bit of body fat' that seems really hard to get rid of, stick with WD.
    -WD cured my IBS and Ive been on it since 03. I have nothing but good things to say about it.
    -One thing, you probably noticed that food started tasting better when you started WD, right? That effect is amplified by roughly 10x when you go hard into IF.
    -Not only that, your sense of smell becomes amplified. And all types of food smells will smell heavenly, and send you into this kinda euphoric state.
    -And thinking about certain foods will make you VIVIDLY recall how that food tastes. Try visiting a food court in that state and just enjoy the display and smells of the various foods. Its a very nice experience.
    -Lol, also when in that state, I can watch FOOD PORN on YT for an entire day without getting bored. (e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/user/BarbecueWeb/videos )
    -Simple things like coffee and tea become more enjoyable too.
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    Why do you want to get rid of "that last bit of body fat"? Is it a health reason or beauty/PU-reason? I personally think a little layer of fat looks healthier and more attractive than super low body fat, and I know girls who agree. So I doubt the effectiveness of this for PU.


    Anyways, I am currently doing non-hardcore intermittent fasting. I have attached the feeling of hunger to a vision of burning fat and purifying my body. It makes hunger even feel enjoyable at times. Just like how I enjoy aching muscles the day after a good work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    Anyways, I am currently doing non-hardcore intermittent fasting. I have attached the feeling of hunger to a vision of burning fat and purifying my body. It makes hunger even feel enjoyable at times. Just like how I enjoy aching muscles the day after a good work out.
    Vanity is big reason. The other is to live long - here is the short (20min) version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvTE--5w808 (Oh and yes, it detoxifies the body like nothing else.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    Why do you want to get rid of "that last bit of body fat"? Is it a health reason or beauty/PU-reason? I personally think a little layer of fat looks healthier and more attractive than super low body fat, and I know girls who agree. So I doubt the effectiveness of this for PU.
    Startagizer low body fat is good for tinder fast sex, but yeah make very little difference for pu since women can not see 6 pack through shirt, but it does make an impact on the face though (jawline etc...).. But here this confirm what you have seen with the girls:




    Anyways, I am currently doing non-hardcore intermittent fasting. I have attached the feeling of hunger to a vision of burning fat and purifying my body. It makes hunger even feel enjoyable at times. Just like how I enjoy aching muscles the day after a good work out.
    "feeling of hunger" this is strange are you sure you are calculating your calories right? or eating feeling up foods, the main advantage i found in intermittent fasting is the lack of feeling hungry... Try to do 2 big meals, that has worked well for me in terms of feeling full and not cravings.....
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    Well read the hole post later, but at the moment I'm in a hurry.
    I just want to say that out of my expirience. going on diet is a lot of mental restructuring. You need to re condition yourself.
    For example: everytime I resist a sweet or something shitty to eat I say to myself :
    -Everytime I resist I get more and more proud of myself.

    on the opposite I know that when I take the sweet I will be down afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckstar101 View Post
    going on diet is a lot of mental restructuring. You need to re condition yourself.
    For example: everytime I resist a sweet or something shitty to eat I say to myself :
    -Everytime I resist I get more and more proud of myself.
    Exactly! Thanks for the input!
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