^The point of me saying that is you made it far too black and white
Theres plenty of situations were making out is not only fine, but desirable
So, it is actually BS to say making out of itself is useless...the contexts you were applying it in werent extensive enough
Did I get that right?
That is your position?
That makes you a lazy asshole
If being at work makes you a lazy asshole, don't post from work, do your job, then when you have time to fully focus and not be a lazy piece of shit maybe post when its relevant, not cuz you need to rant or have an outburst of stupidity for the day
I guess it might be a good idea to post less for a few months to slow things down on here a little
Cosy: Ok I see what your saying..most of the regulars on here are experienced enough to kinda look over this stuff..even to me its not even that important..
so yeh I guess ive been posting too much lately and got too sucked in....better to take some time off
No derail meant, Impulse. What I meant to say is: All your points in the OP are valid. (And irrelevant to seduction.) Yes, makeouts will raise value, jealousy, hornieness, testosterone levels, confidence, they are fun, etc, etc. (And they can easily cost you the lay.) It's still high=school stuff, though. At 31 women will expect something else from you. But if that's what you're into, then go kiss them, Bud! I'm rooting for you.
Everything makes sense in context. My experience aligns with Skills'. I rarely make out unless the bed is in sight. At the same time I can tell you that making out while dancing with a woman is the most erotic form of foreplay you can do in public. (Hidden context: A woman that is in love with you and which you are sleeping with regularly.)
None of this will help you, though. What is your goal? Based on your writings my advice to you still stands: get a girlfriend. It's the fastest way you'll learn about women, and the most sex you'll have in the shortest amount of time.
The word for you is conscientious: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/conscientious - "characterized by extreme care and effort." "Do the right thing." (not morally or out of social duty, but do the right thing that needs to be done to accomplish whatever your goal is, so you don't waste your own and everyone else's time on a misfire because you weren't careful or aware.)
Just be a little more self-aware and conscientous man when it comes to starting new threads, put a little more care into them, be a little less "impulsive." (your name is fitting.) Like, this whole sidetrack wouldn't have happened if you had set up the OP just a little differently, and your goal of a clean on-topic discussion would have more likely been possible.
I mean, I'm over it now,
But you don't wanna turn screws on people like Impulse did in the OP
Its mega bad form
All it takes is conscientiousness, not submission or quitting seduction, or fleeing in panic insulting everyone you can
Like, that shit just isn't even necessary in the first place, its all in impulses head
Reason I stop this stuff short, is cuz if I let it go its like a fucking weed, it gets entrenched everywhere in impulses psyche, and it totally shuts him down into that whole in field moaning zone
And that shit ain't pleasant and leads nowhere, so it is pragmatic on my part to just stop that short of it becoming a major issue
Its good impulse is thinking
But, its BETTER not to frame those thoughts in us vs them stuff cuz its unproductive to invoke comparissons where he is losing.
I mean, theoretically impulses idea here is, choose a losing situation (where he feels beat) and try to combat his way to more confidence
But, its just short sighted because, you actually cannot gain more skill than someone by perception shifts, so all you win is an illusion and then that illusion makes you complacent, and you lose in the long term
So its just tempremental...
Kinda like a pyhrric victory or what not
Even if you win you lose
The better strategy is to build upon a competitive framework, like "I will rediscover bits and pieces of meaning"
Like yes its been covered but it can always do us good to cover it AGAIN
But you can't start that challenge with insults and "bullshit exposed" clickbait hack nonsense
I mean all it does it make me wanna then shred his biz acumen, cuz I sense DEEP seeded weakness due to the whole attempt to implicate superiority through its "grasp" on pragmatism
I'd argue correctly that pragmatism in seduction is STRONGER and more well developed than in entrepreneurial circles, because we more routinely face life and death risk
So our pragmatism has to be utterly sharp and smooth, where in entreprenuerial circles you can just side step most accountaility with group think and herd mentalities that you simply cant do as a seducer. A seducer is in the tick of it, the entrepreneur is a secondary observer.
So I mean, for me, I honestly think sed far outweighs biz in terms of mental preparation (more complex, higher stakes)
So I find the implication of expertise mute and pontificating, as it really is useless to act smug, cuz the field will humble you
So its all PREMATURE
I dunno... flailing?
I'd rather see impulse keep a steady beat, grind it out, work through the gristle
So I see posts like this as the squeaky wheel asking for grease and constantly attempting to reframe until he gets it
When in reality he has to respect others space and help himself by grinding it out
Some understandings take grinding through your mental bullshit until you've experienced enough attrition that you are ready to step up a level
It isn't anyone elses responsibility
It is impulses
In this post he just utterly fails to face it cuz hes too hyper??
I dunno its weird