There were a lot of asian guys groping chicks left and right too and the women were loving it, giggling all over the place and shit...it was a whorehouse man
Skills as a pro to kinda knock making out and the fun that comes with that just didn't seem right
LMAO, I wasnt meaning you in particular or saying anyone was inexperienced, what I meant is that its revisiting an old theme which experienced posters would have covered already, so they're kinda like meh, nothing new here. So yeh, it probably would have been better to frame it as:Originally Posted by Cosy
Lets revisit some basics to make sure i have my bases covered...instead of a me vs you frame like you said (btw, I do some copywriting too so thats probably why that clickbait stuff is coming in :P :P)
Now we're getting somewhere! This is the money point and what ive been trying to say to you - its what I meant in the other thread by all this mindset bashing and realisations/statements - it doesnt actually do anything. A shift in perception will do very little when im on the middle of the dancefloor with some chicks shaking their ass, or when I see 2 chicks at the side of the bar checking me outOriginally Posted by cosy
What will help me on the dancefloor is getting horny, my propensity to get horny, go with my emotions, be ballsy and be fluid in my brain (for lack of a better expression) - taking the handbrakes off basically. So what skills is saying about makeouts kinda seemed like sour grapes to me
And in those situations my ability to act freely and in the way I want ultimately and surely comes down to my brain programming - this is why im saying im a hardcase..yeh you might say thats self-indulgent, but I know my situation..its a brain programming thing. My self-construct (the psychological term) simply keeps me back from releasing the handbrake, with knock on effects on all aspects of my game. Which is why I still lack any major consistency
And through my psychological research ive figured out a few exercises that work - now its just about consistently applying those. Last time I did that I went from 0 lays that month to 5 makeouts total and 1 good lay with a solid 9..so these exercises do work. How the fuck I got sidetracked is a huge story of itself..ive had to change massive parts of my life to get out of pretty tough situations
I guess im good at getting distracted, or have some shitty things in my programming which keeps me in self-sabotaging patterns
Me vs you mentality
Obsessiveness and lack of self-control (why I probably post too much here)
Lack of self-awareness at times maybe? But in field i would say im pretty much aware, im very good in person, im very likeable id say
Wrong associations (negative people and stuff)
Ego and playing the guru
Putting my focus in the wrong things
I get you, if id termed it "lets re-cover some basics to help me along" that would have worked better..so its an eloquence thing we're talking here...Originally Posted by cosy
Funny you say that, Im not really that hyper in real life, though I probably was a few years ago when I used to use hypnosis regularly and things like subliminals, thinking it was the key to confidence (it isn't btw..confidence comes from actual consistent results, not just some inner brain thing. Sticking to that will just make someone more delusional, which it did for me), and that confidence was what I needed to get better with women (again, far too arbitrary to be useful. Competence on the basics I feel is more important, as well as having an even head that can learn properly and take in all criticisms from others, to really properly learn)Originally Posted by cosy
That's kinda taken me a while to figure out but im getting there
I guess the hyperness is just because im sort of a quick person to react (learned that from business, write quickly, respond quickly, do quickly) - its obviously coming across here
Plus Im typing too much here....as I say it would be a good idea to post a little less for me so yeh, a few of you guys are right.
I guess I come to post on here to kinda sort my head out and find it as a sort of release...and it helps me concentrate on the things I really need to, like:
My psychological bullshit which needs fixed
Also, I think im kinda addicted to "mental assurances" from other posters. Its as if I doubt my own knowledge in seduction on a subconscious level, whereas new understandings and "realisations" arent really needed for me at all.
Bottom line its a neurotic obsession - to articulate thoughts from the field and over-think stuff, whereas its probably better for me to just concentrate on the exercises I need to do (self-construct ones in particular) to get those handbrakes off permanently
And anything else on that "perception shift" front is just all bullshit, though it can be useful in fine tuning certain aspects of game, so long as at least consistent basic competency is there in field (and which im still lacking).
To me basic competency is:
- Being able to approach and talk to the women I want instead of bailing or chickening out too much (I still do this far too often, its something I really need to handle and im taking the steps to sort this, not through AA drills or anything, but through self-construct exercises..field tested to work, though it takes a while to get a hang of).
Hook points have been improved massively because im using sex talk game...before I honestly struggled to hook conversations consistently because I was in too much of a free flow state that id bore myself talking about something I wasnt fully interested in (whereas sex you can talk about for hours)
- Looser emotional states in field - which is why I think lots of makeouts can help me. I normally head out about 9pm, hit a few bars first to see whats kicking about. A few makeouts here and there can be good warmups for the real hotties later on
^and from here, everything else follows....
Alright, notedOriginally Posted by PE
As I say, I think posting less will help me a bit too..ive got enough things to work on for the moment that I should concentrate my energy on getting those down.
The main problem with that is this forum is like a hardcore neurotic obsession - you just want to keep posting and I kinda lack self-control on these things. Its like someone has to take the playstation controller away from me, I wont do it myself...