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    End friendship or not?

    Hey guys,

    I have a problem. I'm friends with a girls for about 2-3 years. I'm in friendzone hard. I want to fuck her and she wont let me. lol what shall I do? I would like to cancel the friendship but it is difficult for me to do that. She knows my parents and often talks with them. She sometimes meets them in the supermarket.

    Another thing is:
    I think its plain stupid that she wont let me fuck her. She is the dirtiest slut I know. Sexually she is into the same stuff as me: She is porn addicted. Is into domination porns and watersports. I know for shure that she let someone pee in her face lately. EHm hello and we are friends we cant do that wtf?

    But the best part is that she was into "hobby" prostitution earlier. She worked more or less as a domina together with one of her friends. Now her friend is married and she offered me to be her pimp/protector if she needs money again. I would get 20 % if I wait infront of the houses and take care of her lol

    How hard can friendzone be? Did I mention that she farts around me?? wtf I think no guy ever was this hard friendzoned as myself in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckstar101 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I have a problem. I'm friends with a girls for about 2-3 years. I'm in friendzone hard. I want to fuck her and she wont let me. lol what shall I do? I would like to cancel the friendship but it is difficult for me to do that. She knows my parents and often talks with them.
    You have oneitis. GFTOW.

    Another thing is:
    I think its plain stupid that she wont let me fuck her. She is the dirtiest slut I know. Sexually she is into the same stuff as me: She is porn addicted. Is into domination porns and watersports. I know for shure that she let someone pee in her face lately. EHm hello and we are friends we cant do that wtf?
    Whoa, buddy. Entitled much? "Plain stupid"? Intelligence doesn't have anything to do with it. Attraction does. She finds you unattractive. That's why she won't fuck you. And who could blame her? I bet she senses your weird, shitty attitude toward her.
    But the best part is that she was into "hobby" prostitution earlier
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    So offer her money for a fuck already.

    She doesn't want you. She knows you want her and she enjoys keeping you in the friend zone. Move on. Don't make some big dramatic show of "dumping" her as a friend - just quit calling her up. That's just this relationship though. Your mentality really needs work.

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    yeah you right. I also got the feeling that she enjoys to keeping me in friendzone. I already started to do not answering her calls. I dont know If I shall say anything about it to her or just stop communicating? I know she is already pissed because I dont contact her at the moment. But I think I will do it like that. Just ignoring her.
    And for the future I dont go for female friendshisp anymore that's just not worth it. It always ends that I want to fuck her and get rejected.

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    You're only half getting me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckstar101 View Post
    I dont know If I shall say anything about it to her or just stop communicating?
    Do NOT say anything about it. Normally I'd say just kinda... de-prioritize her. Answer her texts breifly, if you feel like it. If she asks you to hang out, be like, "ya, come over." That sort of thing. But in your case no to minimal contact might be best.

    I know she is already pissed because I dont contact her at the moment.
    She's tooling you. She's not your girlfriend and you don't owe her your time. Acting pissy for not being at her beck and call is her way of treating you like her bitch. Unfortunately I don't think you're in a position to flip the script, and I suggest you simply disengage.

    And for the future I dont go for female friendshisp anymore that's just not worth it. It always ends that I want to fuck her and get rejected.
    See here's where you lose me. Here's where the cracks in your game reveal a rotten frame. There's nothing wrong with having women as friends. Sometimes you'll fuck those friends, sometimes you won't. Shouldn't matter. If there were plenty of sex in your life, you wouldn't be hung up on this.

    IRONICALLY, THOUGH!!! Do you know what the "f" in "afc" stands for? Frustrated. The frustration is strong in you. Women can sense it and it repels them. Nothing screams "loser" like a guy who's mad at women. What I'm saying is that until you can learn to accept women as they are, have fun with them, and have fun with the seduction process, you're doomed to repeat this cycle. It's a catch 22, I know: lack of sex frustrates you, but frustration only makes it harder to get laid.

    Read up on frame. Check out Tubarao's archive, he actually likes women. Check out JWS's "set it and forget it" post if you can dig it up.

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    Thanks for helping me. I guess you are right when you say I'm frustrated.

    Lately every rejection I got mad me a bit more frustrated. I dont think about the ones I get in the club or at the street. But the rejections I got with girls I spend time with and invested much are the ones that fucked me hard. The ones where I think "wow we totally connect and we are so similar and have so much in common" are the ones who hitting me hard. I think there is really a flaw in understanding the situation her. Else I wouldnt be surpised every time.

    However I see the problem her. I'm totally pissed that women reject me and it doesnt matter what I do it always ends bad. And because of that I set myself (and her?) totally under pressure that it must work next time.

    But I'm totally willing to learn. So what shall I do? btw: I didnt find the set it and forget it thread. Do you think about yet any special things to read in Tubarao's archives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckstar101 View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have a problem. I'm friends with a girls for about 2-3 years. I'm in friendzone hard. I want to fuck her and she wont let me. lol what shall I do? I would like to cancel the friendship but it is difficult for me to do that. She knows my parents and often talks with them. She sometimes meets them in the supermarket.

    Another thing is:
    I think its plain stupid that she wont let me fuck her. She is the dirtiest slut I know. Sexually she is into the same stuff as me: She is porn addicted. Is into domination porns and watersports. I know for shure that she let someone pee in her face lately. EHm hello and we are friends we cant do that wtf?

    But the best part is that she was into "hobby" prostitution earlier. She worked more or less as a domina together with one of her friends. Now her friend is married and she offered me to be her pimp/protector if she needs money again. I would get 20 % if I wait infront of the houses and take care of her lol

    How hard can friendzone be? Did I mention that she farts around me?? wtf I think no guy ever was this hard friendzoned as myself in this case.
    I'm of the opinion that you never cancel a friendship. To do so means that you had some kind of attachment to the outcome you were seeking (as you do here).

    But a person who is totally open views relationships differently. It's the difference between judgment ("you should sleep with me") and acceptance ("no matter what you do I accept you"). Your phrase "she is the biggest slut" Leads me to think that there is very good reason she shouldn't sleep with you, but with that aside, sex with women is not logical and will never be (understanding of how it happens is).

    You keep the relationship open, but you keep it open only to a point where the relationship is beneficial for you. I don't go to weekend get togethers with my sister who is on drugs (because this is negative for my life), but I can see her once a month and ask her about her life. In the same way, you limit time spent with this girl so that you can make more time for other girls who actually value what you have to give romantically. What happens most of the time when guys actually follow through with PU is that the girl comes back at a later time saying stuff such as "Wow, you've changed so much."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
    I'm of the opinion that you never cancel a friendship. To do so means that you had some kind of attachment to the outcome you were seeking (as you do here).

    But a person who is totally open views relationships differently. It's the difference between judgment ("you should sleep with me") and acceptance ("no matter what you do I accept you"). Your phrase "she is the biggest slut" Leads me to think that there is very good reason she shouldn't sleep with you, but with that aside, sex with women is not logical and will never be (understanding of how it happens is).

    You keep the relationship open, but you keep it open only to a point where the relationship is beneficial for you. I don't go to weekend get togethers with my sister who is on drugs (because this is negative for my life), but I can see her once a month and ask her about her life. In the same way, you limit time spent with this girl so that you can make more time for other girls who actually value what you have to give romantically. What happens most of the time when guys actually follow through with PU is that the girl comes back at a later time saying stuff such as "Wow, you've changed so much."
    The last paragraph is also a good viewpoint. Maybe I just cut the time with her. The problem is also she wants to make holidays together with me and I'm not intersted in that anymore. We were last year and it was okay but I also was annoyed that she had two one's while refusing my attempts to lay her.

    btw I didnt say the biggest slut I said the dirtiest. Because that's the picture I got from her by knowing about her kinky activities.

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    Good points Supernova!

    - Have other sources than social circle to interact with girls
    - Then you can be more "free" with friendships with females
    - Creates a loop 1) your friends will open up more 2) you get more positive experiences with females in general 3) has effect on your cold approaches too 4) repeat - that is if you do it right for a bit

    Also if you can have some amazing female friends while you work on your PU skills outside of that circle, you can actually "use it" once a friend introduces a friend of hers or you're at some party

    My suggestion is to go the hard way: get laid from cold approaching and be friendly with friends (friend zone them - not actively, it just happens)

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    I'm sorry Mr. Beckstar but what you're writing here seems kind of weird to me. Let's exchange roles for a while to show you what I mean:

    So you're a guy who is quite confident with your sexuality and have slept with quite a few women, found out some special sexual kinks that really work for you and you feel quite happy about it. You have a few male friends you hang out with, you have a few female friends you hang out with (with some of whom you explore your sexuality further if it feels right). There's one woman you are used to hanging out with though that's acting kind of weird lately, since for some reason she seems to think that because you sleep with certain woman means that you're supposed to sleep with her, too. You kind of like that woman as a person but for some reason she just doesn't fall into the "I'll enjoy sleeping with you"-category. After a while she'll demand that you sleep with her or else she will stop spending time with you, to which you basically reply with an "are you nuts?"-face. Something is a little odd about her, perhaps she's not feeling well? Since you've spent quite some time together in the past, you offer to spend more time with her, even go on a holiday together, perhaps she's only in need for some attention?

    Obviously the guy in the above story is supposed to be her and you're in her role. You know apart from what seems to be taught around here at times, being DTF (down to fuck) doesn't mean someone who is DTF will sleep with just anyone that comes along. It's an expression that seeks to express a sort of willingness or a lack of obstacles if the initial attraction is there. In your case, it's either not there in the first place or someone (judging from your writing it's probably mostly you) keeps on putting obstacles in the way.

    Demanding she sleep with you or you'll stop seeing her alltogether is probably the worst idea I have ever read around here. Seriously. You got an about 99% chance she'll think WTF?! This guy is creepy. I'm glad I won't be spending time with him anymore. Or, even worse, she doesn't want to lose your "friendship" (whatever that is for you) and does sleep with you as a reaction to your threat. Congratulations! You just more or less blackmailed her into a sexual act. You proud?

    You know if your main goal is to have sex with just someone, it's kind of easy to lower your standards or (if you got a little money to spend) to seek out a whore. Or take some time practicing self-discipline and developing a mindset of non-neediness, which is kind of easy once you've realized the abundance of none I once wrote about. Learn to be content by yourself. I practice this almost every week, going out by myself and sitting at a bar by myself, looking at people and not forcing myself to interact with any of them. If you can overcome the hurdle of feeling ashamed because you think you're not supposed to sit by yourself, you'll become a king of your space. The same is true for your sexuality. I'll still prefer a woman's company over masturbating or not exploring my sexuality at all, but I've learned to not need their company or sex to feel content. Sexuality and lust stem (as far as I found out) from the very same core that creativity in general stems from, so if you're on a dry streak in terms of sexuality at the moment it's advisable to express your creativity in other forms like writing, music, dancing, ... I have found myself to be most attractive to women I encounter when being able to be very calm and still inside, by not being easily sidetracked by the pull of their attraction, in a way it's like a rock on the beach. The waves just love to wash against it, and so do women seem to love to grind to men who offer them stability. Creative expression in other forms do help a ton to easy your inner turmoil. Meditation does, too, but I've found creative expression to be an easier tool for starting out because you can steam off some parts instead of having to discipline your mind to deal with everything that's there.

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    This post shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how attraction works.

    Dont end the friendship. Subtly refrain from hanging/talking much to her, until you reach a much better understanding.
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