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    Question General Japan pickup thread: How to fuck J-girls

    In light of Blackdragon's recent Japan trip and recent PMs I've received regarding Japan, I've decided to start a new all-Japan thread. Since we don't have a Japan-based pickup scene big enough to warrant a special board, let this thread be a general place to discuss pickup in Japan. Maybe if it gets big and popular, the mods can make it a sticky at some point. If you're going to Japan, are in Japan right now or are trying to fuck a J-girl regardless of where you are, do post here. Maybe we can all contribute to this so that it becomes the new version of Maniac's guide, but with updated knowledge and fresh ideas.

    I am going to give you the most comprehensive and detailed guide you ever could've got on any country. No abstract shit or KJ advice here, only concrete stuff that works and that's been tested: places, times, actual strategies. With this system, I can pull 2-3 new chicks a week. ASF community has made me the man I am today and I feel compelled to give back. I have to credit many different guys for this valuable knowledge and for my success in Japan, but I'm sure they all know who they are when they read this. I've first started going to Japan in 2007 and ever since, Japan and pickup have been synonymous to me.

    Before proceeding further, I feel the need to comment on something: there is a stupid community mantra that "all women are the same everywhere", which couldn't be further from the truth. Only a tool who has never left his neighborhood could say something like that. Strategies for getting laid differ greatly with respect to country you're in, and what works in one country doesn't work in others. Even difficulty levels differ drastically. Every guy who has traveled the world extensively knows this. While the same underlying principles still apply (all women want alpha males, fuck them good, be dominant etc), cultural differences can and often do trump a lot of factors we take for granted. I feel that I've codified my personal system on getting laid in Japan that actually works and this is the result of it. Too bad I haven't done the same for my own country but oh well, I'm moving to J-land in a few months anyway.

    Hope you all enjoy this.

    On language

    This is probably by far the most effective screening filter in Japan. I'll get back to this soon.

    Blackdragon asked if I speak Japanese; the answer is somewhat, I understand it to a degree and I can get around, probably have a casual conversation but I can't do any business activities. The important thing to realize is that language ability matters very little in Japan when it comes to getting laid. Why is that? well, as it turns out most Japanese chicks who have an interest in learning English also seem to have an interest in white guys and vice versa.

    On of my common daytime openers is "Hey, do you speak English?" and then immediately transition into whatever material I have. Sounds lame but it works. If a chick says "No" then she's usually not the type who would be interested in fucking a gaijin. Even if she doesn't speak English and she likes me, she'll at least try to converse with me to the point where we can hook up. If she does speak English, then she's either fucked western guys in the past or has spent some years abroad or is interested in fucking western guys or all the above. This kind of mental matrix saves me a lot of headache.

    Now you can see why I said it's a great screening mechanism. Many of these chicks are prescreened for fucking gaijin and looking for English ability on their part is a very simple filter that will do a lot of heavy lifting for you.

    Daygame

    Let me preface this with one thing: Japan has had it's own parallel pickup scene for decades now. They call pickup "nampa" or "nanpa" and if you spend time in any high traffic area, you're bound to see some dudes standing around on the street and chatting up women. Don't confuse them with AV scouts though, these guys are legit Japanese pickup artists. While it's kind of frowned upon, it's totally legitimate to stop a hot woman in the street and chat her up, it's even socially acceptable to a degree. These guys nearly always try to instadate chicks and ask them to join them over a cup of coffee.

    But enough on Japanese culture...
    Japan (Tokyo in particular) is daygame heaven. It's probably the most pussy-heavy place in the world. They are everywhere, from convenience stores to Starbucks to train platforms. In my personal experience, you never have to look too far to find a woman who is up for it, even during daytime. I might go to a bookstore, check out a few books, chat up a few girls there and likely find a warm one. Same goes for Starbucks, I usually enter the place, check it out, try to find the hottest girl who is sitting solo (very common sight), sit next to her and then hit on her. I don't even buy coffee anymore as it's a waste of money (500 yen for a coffee, are you fucking kidding me?) so I just enter the place and sit wherever I like and pretend everything is cool.

    It seems to me (and Neo-Rio confirmed it, as did another Japan based PUA I used to know), Starbucks is actually somewhat of a pickup joint in Japan (well it's a hookup joint everywhere though). There are lots of lonely girls sitting there and playing with their cell phones who are only too easy to open.

    Some places with enough high volume and hot chicks warrant street game: Takeshita dori in Harajuku, everywhere in Shibuya, entire east Shinjuku. But anywhere in Tokyo is good really.

    Nightgame

    An entire book could be written on this. There are mostly two types of nighttime joints in Japan:

    1. the ones where normal Japanese crowd goes. Don't expect to get laid too much from them, and not because the chicks there are racist (although it could be a factor to a degree), but because there are Japanese guys there and J-girls don't want to be ostracized and discriminated by their countrymen for banging a foreigner. I've never heard of anyone getting laid much from all-Japanese joints, but I could be wrong. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
    2. Gaijin bars and clubs where chicks who are interested in banging gaijin go (typically referred to as "gaijin hunters"). Roppongi is full of these clubs and simply being a white guy in one of these will often get your dick wet. Not too thrilling if you ask me, but when you have nothing better in sight, then going to one of these places sure beats jacking off to porn. Difficulty level? You can easily get laid from these like once in 2 or 3 outings if you know what you're doing. Some venues: Hub, Gaspanic, Motown etc. Roppongi has been seeing an increase in golddiggers looking for western investment bankers lately, but any experienced guy can easily recognize the type of venue these morons frequent and stay clear of it.

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    Even though I said I wouldn't post any KJ advice, I'll still write this for the sake of completion. Consider this section to consist of hearsay as I haven't verified any claims I've heard from other people.

    Can't speak for online game as I've never done it in Japan, but I've heard it's chock full of older women or women looking for a sucker to marry. Not my cup of tea. I've heard the same about international parties that you can find in Metropolis magazine, but Neo-Rio mentioned that he managed to get laid from this consistently so you should ask him instead.

    Also, I know some people who went to Japan to teach English and they were assigned to inaka (villages and towns) which is also bad if you intend to do any sort of high volume game.

    Logistics

    Logistics are the key to getting laid anywhere in the world but in Japan
    they are extremely important. In fact, logistics will often make a lay or break it. The first factor to keep in mind is that virtually zero young people in Tokyo own a car. The second factor to consider is the fact that trains stop running around midnight. Third, and most important factor is having an apartment in a central area, preferably near a train station so that you can escort chicks to your place when they come to meet you. Meeting a chick for drinks in Shibuya while you're staying in Ueno is pretty fucking dumb if you're hoping for a lay (ask me how I know...). You want the pull from your local lounge to your apartment to be seamless and not more than 10 minutes of walking, some girls get creeped out if you take them too far.

    The following knowledge can be credited to Neo-Rio (props dude, awesome advice) and applying it in practice has got me laid:

    If you managed to #close a chick during daytime and you managed to get her out to meet you (these girls can be flaky as hell sometimes), get her to meet you late at night, preferably around 9-10pm in a bar near your place. This alone is usually enough of a SOI that you'd like to fuck her that only a dumb chick would misinterpret something like this. If she does come out to meet you, it's on. Feel free to have one drink (or even skip it) and go straight to your place. I've done it and it works. I think I've written a LR of this type, it's somewhere on mASF so you can look it up. If it's late enough, these chicks know they'll have to stay over for the night so they should know what the deal is upfront... this devastates LMR and screens out any potential idiots and flakes who don't mind stringing you along but will never fuck you in practice.

    Other stuff

    J-girls are noticeably shyer than their western counterparts so watch your energy levels. No need to go in with super direct stuff like you would back home ("OMG WTF YOU'RE FUCKING GORGEOUS I'D BANG YOU HERE AND NOW OMG"), you don't want to scare the shit out of them in the street. Further, J-girls can be extremely passive (an awesome quality if you ask me) and you'll often be expected to drive the entire interaction forward with little to no input on their part and they can be very difficult to read. Don't let this weird you out, look for general cues and assume attraction (such as, if they're hanging out with you at 10pm, they're up for it).

    Also, don't really expect anything serious from many these girls, they can be flaky as fuck and many of them are totally unreliable. Plus there has been an increase in lazy dipshit chicks who expect to get everything while giving nothing in return (just like many western chicks). Recognize them before it's too late. Also, there are some major uncorrupted sweeties in Japan who will give you their entire heart, so be gentle to these souls if you find any, don't treat them like trash. But if you're frequenting gaijin bars or doing street game on gyaru chicks, you won't find any of these so it's not much of a concern anyway. At least 100 volumes of books on psychology of J-girls (and Japanese people in general) could be written, and the only sane way of learning it all is pure exposure, nothing else cuts it.

    Then there is the issue of taking their number vs giving out yours. There are some proponents of solely giving out your number, but I've tried both and honestly haven't noticed any difference. If you refuse to take theirs you'll probably get rid of some flakes but also get some needless churn... you decide if it's worth it.

    IMPORTANT: Don't spread this knowledge too far because the rest of us will lose an edge if it becomes too commonplace. Seriously, don't post this on various gaijin forums and what not. While it's hard to burn through through all the fuckable women in a city of 30+ million people, if too many dipshits start practicing this, it could become a concern. I intend to live in Japan for at least a decade starting next year and I don't want the place ruined for me.

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    Thanks Vexxor. You an Daigoro are my go-to guys for all my Asian pussy concerns - him for the inside scoop, you for the gaijin's perspective.

    Question: back in my ESL teaching days, I effortlesly boned numerous J-girls (partially because I love them, and partially because they're the only race of woman on the planet who could keep their mouths shut about something like that). I'm assuming this tapped into their submission fetish, their sensei fetish, and their gaijin fetish all at once. But that was in the States. I remember you saying that in Japan, gaijin esl teachers are seen as, to paraphrase you, being one notch above a guy gutting fish in a factory.

    Any thoughts on that dichotomy?

    Note to ESL teachers thinking of boning their students: ONLY bone Japanese women. NOT European women, or Latin women, or African women. Not other Asian women either - not all same! Japanese women are steel traps when it comes to keeping a secret.

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    FANTASTIC POST Vex! I'm only here in Tokyo for another 48 hours but I'm going to try some of this stuff tonight just for practice. You're assessment of j-girls being very passive is dead on. I've had to learn that lack of talking from a j-girl does not mean lack of interest like it often would be with an American chick.

    Another issue that I mentioned in the other thread is that if you're visiting Japan, it's next to impossible to get a phone here, so that makes things a challenge unless you're going for pure SNL / SDL game (or if you want to pay absolutely insane international roaming charges...fuck no).

    My temporary apartment is in Nippori, so I'll take your advice and just focus on chicks here, though you're right, Shibuya and Shinjuku are both better for pickup.

    Quick true story. Yesterday some Russian guy came up to me at the subway station, seeing I was white and therefore probably spoke English. He was all pumped about asking "directions to Shibuya". I was proud of myself that I was actually able to answer all of his questions and tell him exactly which subway lines to use to get there. But it was so funny because it was clear he was going there to just pick up chicks and try to get laid. I guess the secret is out.
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    Hey BD,

    How has your time in Japan been thus far? Has it been burning a hole in your wallet, or have you found it relatively cheap because of the recent low in tourism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNYC View Post
    Question: back in my ESL teaching days, I effortlesly boned numerous J-girls (partially because I love them, and partially because they're the only race of woman on the planet who could keep their mouths shut about something like that). I'm assuming this tapped into their submission fetish, their sensei fetish, and their gaijin fetish all at once. But that was in the States. I remember you saying that in Japan, gaijin esl teachers are seen as, to paraphrase you, being one notch above a guy gutting fish in a factory.

    Any thoughts on that dichotomy?
    When you see an exchange student from Japan or Korea in a western country, it's safe to assume she's there for one reason: to bang white guys. I have many female friends like this, they all go to some place like LA, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, NYC or even Australia and then fuck a bunch of guys, their teachers included. One chick I used to know was so desperate for sex that she banged a 15 y/o guy as soon as she got to Australia. The other one fucked guys in a car in front of her boyfriend's house in Boston. Girls like this have been given a nickname back in 90s, they're called "Yellow cabs" even by their own countrymen. In fact, if I remember well, Yarbles focuses exactly on this type of chicks.

    As for English teachers in Japan, they have a pretty low social status indeed. I don't think it matters for getting laid though. There is a huge market for white guys in Japan and many of these chicks don't give a shit about what you do. Some only want sex, some want more and being rich would be welcome, but many will fuck you even if you aren't. Some are looking for rich husbands and foreign I-bankers so you won't have access to that market, but it doesn't matter. I personally feel that when you do high volume SNL/SDL game, status is the last thing that matters. Paul Janka (a famous NYC player) has confirmed this as well. He lives in a shitty apartment and still managed to bang 250+ chicks in there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdragon View Post
    FANTASTIC POST Vex! I'm only here in Tokyo for another 48 hours but I'm going to try some of this stuff tonight just for practice. You're assessment of j-girls being very passive is dead on. I've had to learn that lack of talking from a j-girl does not mean lack of interest like it often would be with an American chick.
    Exactly. I had chicks who would meet me for drinks and then quietly sit for an hour, barely saying anything. I almost got up once and left, but I decided to persist for the hell of it. The girl was indeed bored... but she wasn't bored because of me, but because she didn't want to be in a bar when she could've been getting laid! I took her to my place and fucked her instantly. We had barely exchanged a few sentences during the entire interaction. J-girls are like this. You'll often have to persist all the way with very little input on their part. Silence usually means "Yes" in Japan. If they don't like something, they'll protest so don't worry.

    Another issue that I mentioned in the other thread is that if you're visiting Japan, it's next to impossible to get a phone here, so that makes things a challenge unless you're going for pure SNL / SDL game (or if you want to pay absolutely insane international roaming charges...fuck no).
    I've never lived in Japan yet, all my success there took place on vacations. Last year I was traveling around Asia and I didn't have ANY phone with me and yet I got laid excessively, including in Japan. Having a phone makes it easier but it won't make or break a lay. Just improvise. One girl wrote down her number with lipstick on a paper tissue, one did it on a piece of paper, I told one to give me her iPhone and then put in my email address.... hell, you can even give out your business card, it'll make you look professional

    Since no one texts or calls in Japan (everyone uses emails for appointments), you can set up a date from your computer when you get home. It worked for me.

    Quick true story. Yesterday some Russian guy came up to me at the subway station, seeing I was white and therefore probably spoke English. He was all pumped about asking "directions to Shibuya". I was proud of myself that I was actually able to answer all of his questions and tell him exactly which subway lines to use to get there. But it was so funny because it was clear he was going there to just pick up chicks and try to get laid. I guess the secret is out.
    The secret is out that it's easy to get laid in gaijin bars, that much is true. It's been that way for 20 years. Everyone can go to his local gaijin watering hole a few times and eventually pick up a MiHO to take home (who has done the same with 10 guys before you... this year alone). However, daygame is still a totally unexploited domain from what I've seen. People in Tokyo are extremely socially alienated and unlike white chicks who are often drowning in male attention, many J-girls haven't had sex in YEARS and your daytime approach may well be the first male attention they got in a long time. Some will ignore you when you approach them, but you'll also get access to a market of sweet and uncorrupted girls you otherwise definitely wouldn't have met in your gaijin bar. I've met some sweeties this way (in train stations and Starbucks) who are the types who would never visit any type of nighttime environment.

    My personal holy grail of pickup is to be able to completely ditch bars and clubs one day (I hate them with a passion) and focus SOLELY on daygame.

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    In my last few years in Japan, I got most of my lays from social events. I aggressively worked the international party scene, and the club scene. I did almost no online game at all. I also did a fair bit of street game. I also had an escorting job which got frequently used by this fat Sri Lankan banker who paid me to fuck his girlfriends. Good work if you can get it.
    It was probably in the last years of living in Japan that my game really exploded. Mainly from excessive going out to parties, and solid logistics. Plus I really nailed down a good understanding of game after learning everything to NOT do. I had a lot of frustrating failures until I streamlined the process. I had days of hat-tricks and near hat-tricks.... and some days I woke up after fucking all these chicks and wonder what else there was to do with my life. The good news is that everything I learnt after all that helped me master the art, so that you guys can take what I know and run with it without the wasted time trying to figure it out.

    Plus I also lived with a girl for a few years in Japan, which gave me a healthy distaste for monogamy and taught me everything I needed to know about relationships and why you shouldn't ever get married.... especially since I was much happier living alone and having different women booty call me, as opposed to being stuck with one chick who eventually began to remind me that I am not some kind of He-man that can make relationships work. (He-Man may be Master of the Universe, but he completely loses to She-Woman Center of the Universe.)


    Anyway... Japan, or at least what I remember of it.... Every scene has it's own breed of woman. The international party events (which are basically just 3000 yen all you can drink) typically brought out a lot of the more lonely J-woman with a white-man bent... but again, I had to compete with lots of other guys too who had the same idea as me. Most of the other men were chodey, and a lot of the women were either attention-whoring or relationship-seeking. And then some of these women had been left on the shelf. However I did find a few gems in the rough... like young, cute girls who just liked to fuck, and some of these Hokkaido girls with huge tits who showed up because they were from out of town and looking for friends.

    I used to meet lots of women over 30s, but quite a few in their 20s. Some of these relationships lasted a few years in a few cases (most of the girls left me to hook up with AFCs who would marry them). It got to the point where I was fucking a new chick every second week, and that was only because I didn't go to these parties every week and I was rebooking my regulars.

    Club scene in Tokyo is totally mad, and incredibly awesome. Useless for pickup, and almost completely random though because most girls at clubs are essentially prima-donna attention-whores... but not all of them of course and had quite a number of ONS from that route, but it was amazingly hit and miss. The girls were socially savvy, and their outcome independence and abundance mentality used to threaten mine. Some of these parties were totally debaucherous, and we had pole dancers and "Tokyo decadence" with HOT girls in leather clad outfits. There were bikini parties in summer, and "Maniac Beach" with tousands of J-girls in skimpy outfits.I found the girls there good sparring partners, so when I met a girl who did not get out as much, she was basically hooked on me after getting laid for the first time in a long time.... which is a bit sad really. I suppose that's when you realize just how bad you used to be before you got out very much.

    I used to use Japanese a lot, but guys, you will find that you are actually much better off using English. A large percentage of my lays came from girls who either wanted to learn English or already could. I laid a few girls who had zero interest in English and they were incredibly weird and offputting, and most of that type I just couldn't lay at all.

    After working the numbers and seeing the same bullshit rejections over an over again, plus a healthy knowledge of how flaky the women are, I think I developed a healthy disrespect for Japanese women as human beings and began to see them more as sex-clients, which is where the whole man-whore paradigm originated in my mind. I really did begin to experience outcome independance, and I become more bulletproof to rejections as if they were more or less par the course. I would ignore all their cute chirpy behaviour and just escalate until they freaked out , fucked or gave me "radio silence". I had friends in the club/party scene who basically came to the same conclusions I did. Only difference is that they're all still in Tokyo.

    They would get their jollies off and then when they didn't want me anymore I was yesterday's trash. Modern Japan has a disposable culture where everything new and different is awesome, until it becomes old. There is no loyalty beyond that. You turn on TV and they're constantly advertising new products... "shinhatsubai" (new product) this, and "shinhatsubai" that. You can find something you like in the convenience store and then two months later that product is gone and replaced with something else new. You don't see that as a tourist but it's there.

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    Most of the bad things that I hear about Japan lately is that it's expensive as hell and not really worth visiting now, unless you've got the cash to blow.

    Also, the thing about foreigners fucking it up, and that there's already a ton of them living in Tokyo, so Japanese women are used to them and the novelty of being a foreigner there doesn't have the affect that it used to have 10 or so years ago.

    I've also heard Korea (or even China) is a lot better now in almost every way: inexpensiveness, nightlife, women, easy lays, etc.

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    Here's my contribution to this important thread:

    The best, easiest possible way to pick up a J-girl (massively field-tested) for a foreigner is to go INDIRECT and ask for help first. This completely disarms them and they are basically obliged to help you. Don't be afraid to ask her to actually walk you to your destination.

    "Excuse me, can you help me? I'm looking for the Blah-blah bookstore..."

    Then, immediately go DIRECT and try for number or instadate. Pile on the compliments with sincerity and a smile. Seem harmless and spontaneous.

    "Thanks, you're so kind. And your English is great! Wow, I feel really lucky to have met you. Please let me buy you a coffee to thank you for your kindness. No? Then you should give me your number so I can thank you another time..."

    Basically, you've tricked her into helping you and you are using the social concept of GRATITUDE to hook her into seeing you again. But you've got to play it straight. Speak in simple English that she will understand, even if it sounds lame to you! Forget about being alpha or cocky funny. In Asia, just be sincere and persistent. Like candy from babes.

    Sometimes I almost wish I was a gaijin... heh heh heh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCal View Post
    Most of the bad things that I hear about Japan lately is that it's expensive as hell and not really worth visiting now, unless you've got the cash to blow.
    Just avoid eating at restaurants. I've been eating nothing but o-nigiri and small pastries from the 7-11 equivalent stores here (which are much fancier than their American counterparts). Tastes fantastic, gives you plenty of energy, and costs less than about 6 bucks US every time I eat. Plus I have my own kitchen (if you can call a tiny alcove a "kitchen") and I've been making my own food at home too.

    Is Tokyo expensive if you do the standard vacation thing where you're constantly eating at restaurants and staying at normal hotels? Fuck yes. Is Tokyo more expensive than China? Fuck yes. My apartment here cost double my apartment in Shanghai and is half the size. But that means it's $52 USD per night instead of $25 USD per night. Still pretty cheap. And, as I said in my blog post about it, my apartment in Tokyo is much nicer than the one in Shanghai (just really fucking tiny).

    My point is there are plenty of ways to travel on the cheap anywhere, including Tokyo. This all assumes you're travelling alone without a girlfriend or wife. Bring a woman, and you're going to be spending buckets of money. (There's a reason I always travel alone when I go on international trips.)

    Also, the thing about foreigners fucking it up, and that there's already a ton of them living in Tokyo, so Japanese women are used to them and the novelty of being a foreigner there doesn't have the affect that it used to have 10 or so years ago.
    There are definitely way more white people here in Tokyo than in China, no question. But I'm still convinced it would not be difficult to get laid here as a whitey.

    I've also heard Korea (or even China) is a lot better now in almost every way: inexpensiveness, nightlife, women, easy lays, etc.
    I know next to nothing about getting laid in Japan or Korea, but getting laid in China I do know a little about. Briefly:
    • Chinese chicks are much more overt than Japanese chicks. If they like you or hate you, they'll tell you either in no uncertain terms. You don't need to "figure them out" like with the j-girls.
    • As you said above, yes, if you're a white guy in China, you're the only game in town. White folks just don't go to China (though as time goes on that will change). So you have NO competition.
    • Biggest problem? Chinese chicks are not hot. I hate to say it but it's true. In the big cities like Shanghai and Hong Kong you can find the occasional cutie or super-hottie, but it's a needle in a haystack. This means it's impossible to put in the numbers with hot chicks. If you don't mind fucking average chicks, it's not tough, but I'm one of those assholes with high standards. If you want to fuck a HOT chinese chick, your'e doing a lot of walking around looking for numbers. (Or you're paying for hookers and you just pick out the girl you want, just like in Rush Hour 2. LOL. Not my style but I know a few guys who enjoy doing this.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdragon View Post
    I know next to nothing about getting laid in Japan or Korea, but getting laid in China I do know a little about. Briefly:
    • Chinese chicks are much more overt than Japanese chicks. If they like you or hate you, they'll tell you either in no uncertain terms. You don't need to "figure them out" like with the j-girls.
    • As you said above, yes, if you're a white guy in China, you're the only game in town. White folks just don't go to China (though as time goes on that will change). So you have NO competition.
    • Biggest problem? Chinese chicks are not hot. I hate to say it but it's true. In the big cities like Shanghai and Hong Kong you can find the occasional cutie or super-hottie, but it's a needle in a haystack. This means it's impossible to put in the numbers with hot chicks. If you don't mind fucking average chicks, it's not tough, but I'm one of those assholes with high standards. If you want to fuck a HOT chinese chick, your'e doing a lot of walking around looking for numbers. (Or you're paying for hookers and you just pick out the girl you want, just like in Rush Hour 2. LOL. Not my style but I know a few guys who enjoy doing this.)
    I could never do Chinese chicks. I found them highly irritating (must be the directness thing which Japanese women don't have) and clueless... not to mention blatant golddiggers. They'd also dig their heels in by trying to hijack my logistics, and had rules about not fucking before date 3 or whatever. Perhaps I fell into their provider category. Dunno how that happened.

    I ramped up sex talk on a lot of them, and they just wouldn't take the subtle hints. I got to the point where I was basically telling them I'd fuck them and blow their mind, and they still wouldn't get it! Then they'd complain that they can't get a man, so I then asked them "What do you want from a guy?" and they'd invariably say "money" (no wonder sex talk didn't work). Then I'd tell them that that's basically prostitution, and that men don't hold prostitutes in high regard. That made her pissed off with me (my fault for making her unhappy right? lol), in which case I'd lose the chick - but she'd learn from what I said and go on to honk the next guy's nuts.

    Can't win with em. They can't negotiate for shit. They just dig their heels in and won't budge.

    Went to Hong Kong. Too many Chinese hookers. Well there's plenty of them in Japan too. Just have a look at Roppongi, and up Dogenzaka "love hotel hill" in Shibuya.

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