In light of Blackdragon's recent Japan trip and recent PMs I've received regarding Japan, I've decided to start a new all-Japan thread. Since we don't have a Japan-based pickup scene big enough to warrant a special board, let this thread be a general place to discuss pickup in Japan. Maybe if it gets big and popular, the mods can make it a sticky at some point. If you're going to Japan, are in Japan right now or are trying to fuck a J-girl regardless of where you are, do post here. Maybe we can all contribute to this so that it becomes the new version of Maniac's guide, but with updated knowledge and fresh ideas.
I am going to give you the most comprehensive and detailed guide you ever could've got on any country. No abstract shit or KJ advice here, only concrete stuff that works and that's been tested: places, times, actual strategies. With this system, I can pull 2-3 new chicks a week. ASF community has made me the man I am today and I feel compelled to give back. I have to credit many different guys for this valuable knowledge and for my success in Japan, but I'm sure they all know who they are when they read this. I've first started going to Japan in 2007 and ever since, Japan and pickup have been synonymous to me.
Before proceeding further, I feel the need to comment on something: there is a stupid community mantra that "all women are the same everywhere", which couldn't be further from the truth. Only a tool who has never left his neighborhood could say something like that. Strategies for getting laid differ greatly with respect to country you're in, and what works in one country doesn't work in others. Even difficulty levels differ drastically. Every guy who has traveled the world extensively knows this. While the same underlying principles still apply (all women want alpha males, fuck them good, be dominant etc), cultural differences can and often do trump a lot of factors we take for granted. I feel that I've codified my personal system on getting laid in Japan that actually works and this is the result of it. Too bad I haven't done the same for my own country but oh well, I'm moving to J-land in a few months anyway.
Hope you all enjoy this.
This is probably by far the most effective screening filter in Japan. I'll get back to this soon.
Blackdragon asked if I speak Japanese; the answer is somewhat, I understand it to a degree and I can get around, probably have a casual conversation but I can't do any business activities. The important thing to realize is that language ability matters very little in Japan when it comes to getting laid. Why is that? well, as it turns out most Japanese chicks who have an interest in learning English also seem to have an interest in white guys and vice versa.
On of my common daytime openers is "Hey, do you speak English?" and then immediately transition into whatever material I have. Sounds lame but it works. If a chick says "No" then she's usually not the type who would be interested in fucking a gaijin. Even if she doesn't speak English and she likes me, she'll at least try to converse with me to the point where we can hook up. If she does speak English, then she's either fucked western guys in the past or has spent some years abroad or is interested in fucking western guys or all the above. This kind of mental matrix saves me a lot of headache.
Now you can see why I said it's a great screening mechanism. Many of these chicks are prescreened for fucking gaijin and looking for English ability on their part is a very simple filter that will do a lot of heavy lifting for you.
Let me preface this with one thing: Japan has had it's own parallel pickup scene for decades now. They call pickup "nampa" or "nanpa" and if you spend time in any high traffic area, you're bound to see some dudes standing around on the street and chatting up women. Don't confuse them with AV scouts though, these guys are legit Japanese pickup artists. While it's kind of frowned upon, it's totally legitimate to stop a hot woman in the street and chat her up, it's even socially acceptable to a degree. These guys nearly always try to instadate chicks and ask them to join them over a cup of coffee.
But enough on Japanese culture...
Japan (Tokyo in particular) is daygame heaven. It's probably the most pussy-heavy place in the world. They are everywhere, from convenience stores to Starbucks to train platforms. In my personal experience, you never have to look too far to find a woman who is up for it, even during daytime. I might go to a bookstore, check out a few books, chat up a few girls there and likely find a warm one. Same goes for Starbucks, I usually enter the place, check it out, try to find the hottest girl who is sitting solo (very common sight), sit next to her and then hit on her. I don't even buy coffee anymore as it's a waste of money (500 yen for a coffee, are you fucking kidding me?) so I just enter the place and sit wherever I like and pretend everything is cool.
It seems to me (and Neo-Rio confirmed it, as did another Japan based PUA I used to know), Starbucks is actually somewhat of a pickup joint in Japan (well it's a hookup joint everywhere though). There are lots of lonely girls sitting there and playing with their cell phones who are only too easy to open.
Some places with enough high volume and hot chicks warrant street game: Takeshita dori in Harajuku, everywhere in Shibuya, entire east Shinjuku. But anywhere in Tokyo is good really.
An entire book could be written on this. There are mostly two types of nighttime joints in Japan:
- the ones where normal Japanese crowd goes. Don't expect to get laid too much from them, and not because the chicks there are racist (although it could be a factor to a degree), but because there are Japanese guys there and J-girls don't want to be ostracized and discriminated by their countrymen for banging a foreigner. I've never heard of anyone getting laid much from all-Japanese joints, but I could be wrong. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
- Gaijin bars and clubs where chicks who are interested in banging gaijin go (typically referred to as "gaijin hunters"). Roppongi is full of these clubs and simply being a white guy in one of these will often get your dick wet. Not too thrilling if you ask me, but when you have nothing better in sight, then going to one of these places sure beats jacking off to porn. Difficulty level? You can easily get laid from these like once in 2 or 3 outings if you know what you're doing. Some venues: Hub, Gaspanic, Motown etc. Roppongi has been seeing an increase in golddiggers looking for western investment bankers lately, but any experienced guy can easily recognize the type of venue these morons frequent and stay clear of it.
Other types of game
Even though I said I wouldn't post any KJ advice, I'll still write this for the sake of completion. Consider this section to consist of hearsay as I haven't verified any claims I've heard from other people.
Can't speak for online game as I've never done it in Japan, but I've heard it's chock full of older women or women looking for a sucker to marry. Not my cup of tea. I've heard the same about international parties that you can find in Metropolis magazine, but Neo-Rio mentioned that he managed to get laid from this consistently so you should ask him instead.
Also, I know some people who went to Japan to teach English and they were assigned to inaka (villages and towns) which is also bad if you intend to do any sort of high volume game.
Logistics are the key to getting laid anywhere in the world but in Japan they are extremely important. In fact, logistics will often make a lay or break it. The first factor to keep in mind is that virtually zero young people in Tokyo own a car. The second factor to consider is the fact that trains stop running around midnight. Third, and most important factor is having an apartment in a central area, preferably near a train station so that you can escort chicks to your place when they come to meet you. Meeting a chick for drinks in Shibuya while you're staying in Ueno is pretty fucking dumb if you're hoping for a lay (ask me how I know...). You want the pull from your local lounge to your apartment to be seamless and not more than 10 minutes of walking, some girls get creeped out if you take them too far.
The following knowledge can be credited to Neo-Rio (props dude, awesome advice) and applying it in practice has got me laid:
If you managed to #close a chick during daytime and you managed to get her out to meet you (these girls can be flaky as hell sometimes), get her to meet you late at night, preferably around 9-10pm in a bar near your place. This alone is usually enough of a SOI that you'd like to fuck her that only a dumb chick would misinterpret something like this. If she does come out to meet you, it's on. Feel free to have one drink (or even skip it) and go straight to your place. I've done it and it works. I think I've written a LR of this type, it's somewhere on mASF so you can look it up. If it's late enough, these chicks know they'll have to stay over for the night so they should know what the deal is upfront... this devastates LMR and screens out any potential idiots and flakes who don't mind stringing you along but will never fuck you in practice.
J-girls are noticeably shyer than their western counterparts so watch your energy levels. No need to go in with super direct stuff like you would back home ("OMG WTF YOU'RE FUCKING GORGEOUS I'D BANG YOU HERE AND NOW OMG"), you don't want to scare the shit out of them in the street. Further, J-girls can be extremely passive (an awesome quality if you ask me) and you'll often be expected to drive the entire interaction forward with little to no input on their part and they can be very difficult to read. Don't let this weird you out, look for general cues and assume attraction (such as, if they're hanging out with you at 10pm, they're up for it).
Also, don't really expect anything serious from many these girls, they can be flaky as fuck and many of them are totally unreliable. Plus there has been an increase in lazy dipshit chicks who expect to get everything while giving nothing in return (just like many western chicks). Recognize them before it's too late. Also, there are some major uncorrupted sweeties in Japan who will give you their entire heart, so be gentle to these souls if you find any, don't treat them like trash. But if you're frequenting gaijin bars or doing street game on gyaru chicks, you won't find any of these so it's not much of a concern anyway. At least 100 volumes of books on psychology of J-girls (and Japanese people in general) could be written, and the only sane way of learning it all is pure exposure, nothing else cuts it.
Then there is the issue of taking their number vs giving out yours. There are some proponents of solely giving out your number, but I've tried both and honestly haven't noticed any difference. If you refuse to take theirs you'll probably get rid of some flakes but also get some needless churn... you decide if it's worth it.
IMPORTANT: Don't spread this knowledge too far because the rest of us will lose an edge if it becomes too commonplace. Seriously, don't post this on various gaijin forums and what not. While it's hard to burn through through all the fuckable women in a city of 30+ million people, if too many dipshits start practicing this, it could become a concern. I intend to live in Japan for at least a decade starting next year and I don't want the place ruined for me.