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    On the ranch growing up... With all men, most of the time. The guys were very close and attached to the dogs. They let them go everywhere even in their beds, and I have a distinct childhood memory of a Scary-ass tough Campesino... You know laconic "muy indio" guy, home made (prison?) tattoos, hands so rough that they could slice wire... crying over the untimely demise of a border collie named Micky... The cats did not have names lived in the barn, kept the vermin down, and were semi feral... Nobody gave much of a shit about the cats.

    Now that I spend a fair amount of time in the apartments of single NY women... (BTW total digression but does anybody else here get aroused just by the scent, and atmosphere of the slightly messy apartments of women that live alone....) I have noticed that the number that keep cats, is far greater then the number that keep dogs... Although there is a kind of princess chick I enjoy that keeps a purse dog. Woman like cats because they are affectionate and non-needy. Men like dogs because they are big hearted and loyal... Dogs are good to go require little persuasion and are all in.

    I think there is a playful and puppie like quality to the coolest woman... It makes me wonder if they have inverted ijjji's theory.

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    Okay! When i created the FISH map, I had to cut a ton of shit out. For ME, all that shit is IMPLIED in that 'new and improved' map, and that was the whole point of making it.

    However, to others it may be of benefit to observe some of that more detailed stuff.

    I am aware that this may also be bad, if someone already created their own working interpretation, so keep that in mind


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    Update (will comment later - need to run).

    ......Okayokay, so Im really trying to solidify my own understanding of the mingle process.

    (So this map is not actually my modus operandi - you need to find the map that looks like a fish for that!)

    Im trying to spin a few more concepts into each other, to kinda identify if they combine like drops of water, OR more like drops of water and oil..

    NOTE, the strange figure illustrating Stargazer's "stumble upon girls" from his mingle thread. (Sorry couldnt find better illustration)

    Also note the illustration of a bait biting bass. I wrote a post about this a while ago, but I dont think anyone noticed. Anyways, this concept is ultra-key in my understanding going forth!! You could say that my entire ENTITLEMENT/ATTITUDE/assuming attraction/apparent confidence/.. whatever you wanna call it is rooted RIGHT HERE. Its my anchor when the sea gets rough, so to speak. (Hence the text on that figure.)

    Okay cool! This should be self explanatory unlike some of my maps. No 'advanced hidden meanings' here





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    As a result of discussion in other threads, I have come to realize that there is a duality of SEEMINGLY contrasting values in my game.

    However, it was noted that
    'AA' = Lack of immersion.
    But you can also argue that
    'AA' = Lack of extroversion.
    If so, Extroversion = Immersion...




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    I for one appreciate your detailed stuff a lot! It gives a better peak into you mind.

    As for stumbling, I think the look over the shoulder provides a good mental image. You expect him to go "oh, hey!"
    look-over-shoulder.jpg

    My take on your immersion thought:
    Extroversion ≠ Immersion, but, Lack of immersion -> AA -> Lack of extroversion. And, Immersion -> Extroversion. (Immersion is a cause, and extroversion excludes AA.)

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    I thought these had some pretty cool concepts and you might find it useful.





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    Stargazer, your equation sure beats mine, immersion being the permissive force, rather than the exact same as extroversion or bold action-taking.

    And indeed, to stay silent as you stumble is the most unnatural thing. Even staying silent as others stumble is very un-natural for humans.

    Thanks Salaam - great stuff! Would you be surprised if I told you I have already watched all the 'lets get catified' vids? Yup.
    Animal BL is the best for learning about vibes, imo. Human BL has 'white noise' in it, generated by the intellectual mind.

    Speaking about great.. I suggest everybody check out Cesar Millan Dogwhisperer TV show.
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    I made a collage of various methods for visualizing idea/brainstorming.



    Some comments:
    -Evocative map is THE BEST for me.
    -I HATE process chain/swim lanes! People who use that are not in touch with reality, and they are a general hindrance to themselves and others.
    -Clustering is fun, but only useful in a very early phase.
    -Temple is an old favorite of min that Ive come to HATE similar to 'process chain'. It gives a totally false picture of how things work.

    I havent worked much with the rest. They look kinda WEAK though.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thin Man View Post
    I think there is a playful and puppie like quality to the coolest woman... It makes me wonder if they have inverted ijjji's theory.
    I agree with the cats and dogs theory. A feminine girl with feelings of one-itis or even just emotions of affection/attraction for you will behave like a little loving puppy! Only a bit more obedient perhaps Too bad it seems to be temporary in mono relations! While a free/independent/powerful man tends to behave like a big cat. Will end with a few quotes from guys able to put it more eloquently than this monsieur regarding cats. Sorry for the messy formatting.

    "I have lived with many Zen masters... .all of them cats." -- Eckhart Tolle
    "Cats seem to go on the principle that it never does any harm to ask for what you want." -- Joseph Wood Krutch
    "I wish I could write as mysterious as a cat." -- Edgar Allan Poe

    "A cat has absolute emotional honesty: human beings, for one reason or another, may hide their feelings, but a cat does not." -- Ernest Hemingway

    "If animals could speak, the dog would be a blundering outspoken fellow; but the cat would have the rare grace of never saying a word too much." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijjjji View Post
    Stargazer, your equation sure beats mine, immersion being the permissive force, rather than the exact same as extroversion or bold action-taking.

    And indeed, to stay silent as you stumble is the most unnatural thing. Even staying silent as others stumble is very un-natural for humans.

    Thanks Salaam - great stuff! Would you be surprised if I told you I have already watched all the 'lets get catified' vids? Yup.
    Animal BL is the best for learning about vibes, imo. Human BL has 'white noise' in it, generated by the intellectual mind.

    Speaking about great.. I suggest everybody check out Cesar Millan Dogwhisperer TV show.
    Nice, doesn't surprise me at all actually. Did you know some people naturally do cat "I love you's"? It seems that good feelings will sometimes naturally push your eyes closed and I think it's degrees of this "good feeling pushing closed" that is responsible for the eye crinkle people talk about as a sign that a smile is genuine. In other words there is a spectrum of this action that goes from eye crinkle to eyes fully closed and there is an inverse spectrum of "hard" eyes or "predator gaze". Basically, I find this helpful, because it keeps me authentic, and not trying to do this move as a technique, but instead placing myself in an emotional space, where my eyes will naturally carry some degree of the emotional eye spectrum I want and to move away from those I don't (I think fatigue has it's own eye spectrum, that can be managed). Bedroom Eyes work the same way, by letting the sexual pleasure soften and close your eyes a bit. If people have trouble with this it's most likely an authenticity issue or an issue of muscle stiffness which that stretch cat dude showed is great for.

    And yea, I've been watching a lot of the Dog Whisperer, even my Wife digs it from a counseling perspective.
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