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    Best seduction posts from the old forum. Doubles as a seduction walkthrough/players guide

    EDIT: mASF has been going up and down like a yo-yo. If you see posts that interest you, SAVE THEM TO YOUR HARD DRIVE. There's no guarantee they'll be up again.

    EDIT2: Board member Hylas graciously put together a pdf containing all of these posts (or almost all of them, I haven't double-checked). Mad props to Hylas, yo.



    If you only read one post, read this one:

    IAmMaximus
    The Newbie Method



    Now, onto the specifics.
    The framework of this post (and my style) is Mystery Method, with two things changed and a few things tweaked. Why reinvent the wheel?
    First, she doesn't always have to be the first person to express an interest.
    Second, we're not doing canned material any more.
    Additionally, Attraction and Comfort have been merged into "Social", because the less I have to keep track of, the better. This means the resulting categories are as follows:

    Open

    Zardoz:
    “Opening freestyle: The natural way”

    Social

    Natural conversation
    Charisma Arts wiki (archived on scribd.com) pp. 13-16. Specifically, everything from "making it personal" to "open-ended questions".

    Cutting Conversational Threads
    Chopan:
    How I conversate, part one part two

    Note that storytelling, social proof and active disinterest affect her perception of your value (DHV), while the ones after that affect her buying temperature.

    Storytelling
    Juggler:
    Juggler's methods regarding storytelling

    Social Proof
    CraigSD220:
    Craig‘s Method - The Natural Way

    ninjasdf
    Lording a Club

    Active disinterest
    Tyler Durden:
    Active disinterest - Epitome of attraction

    Misinterpretation
    n3rv1:
    Fun vs. Funny - The Art of Bullshitting

    Push/pull and Challenging/qualifying
    Swinggcat:
    This is how the game is played boys

    Mini-cold reads
    Tyler Durden:
    Chick-CRACK: Mini-Cold-Reads

    C+F
    ninjasdf:
    How to play pool the PUA way (long)

    The Magic Man:
    Best Banter Lines Grouped into Categories (be very careful about calibration here.)

    Roleplaying (couldn't find any good threads about this one.)

    Kino

    Woodhaven:
    DiCarlo Escalation Ladder

    Beerbonghangover
    Beerbonghangover's kino

    Malibu:
    A Guide to Kino and the Art of Touch

    Chopan:
    What game really is (not philosophy, some practical shit for you)

    Logistics

    money_matteo
    An integral part of *CONSISTENT SAME NIGHT LAYS*

    Phone game
    Z:
    Z's Phone/Text Game Guide

    Day 2
    neo-rio:
    Re: ATTN: Neo-Rio....questions for you
    Re: Keep having bad dates

    Sexual

    Jake_P:
    Re: Building Attraction is Critical

    Verbal (Sexual Negotiation)

    cobi:
    How i escalate to ensure sex on 1st date

    neo-rio:
    Sexual Negotiation
    (Check out all of neo-rio's posts in that thread and Aima's response.)

    Lifeguard:
    Sexual Banter

    Non-Verbal (Seductive Vibe)

    60 years of challenge
    Repost: Non-Verbal Seduction
    Anti-Manifesto


    Edit: That's the chronological order. I derived that by boiling down all of pickup into 4 basic elements and then figuring out where they go in a sarge. Those four elements are:


    Who you are

    Harmless
    Calibration vs. “It‘s Always On”

    TylerDurden
    Trying too hard to qualify - massively important
    (Note that TD later recategorized these 25 mistakes into just 4: conveying nervousness, conveying neediness, trying too hard to gain acceptance and trying too hard to convey value.)

    Razorjack
    Razorjack‘s “Natural” Method

    BradP
    Blow me or blow me out!

    How she feels

    TylerDurden
    The Secret Society
    Dissecting shit test passing measures


    Hitori
    Social Status / Women Explained
    ASD & Shit Tests / Women Explained

    squirrels
    Chick Logic and the Myth of the Unique Snowflake

    Franco/zarathustra_fi
    Rich descriptions: how to hypnotize her back

    Who she is

    DogSoldier
    DogSoldier's Definitive Guide to Freaks, Ho's & Good Girls and How to Spot Them In-Field.

    PlayerSupreme
    Good Girls, Ho's and Freaks (couldn't find the original masf post.)

    Your Leadership

    Regal
    Rewarding and Punishing Girls

    Tubarao
    On leading
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    Good selection abcd_z. Lot's of revolutionary (at the time) knowledge in this collection.

    Because I Can, Nick
    Don't be upset by the results you didn't get with the work you didn't do.

    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility lies in being superior to your former self. -Hemingway

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    Thanks for posting these. That Chopan post on convo threads was a real lightbulb thread for me at teh time and I need to re-address it to break a sticking point. His frame of "she's already mine" is solid gold and what I can do when I'm at my best, just playing with the frame, with the convo.
    I wanna get every SHB on the globe
    We kiss and hug and then we disrobe
    It's a short circuit in the frontal lobe
    'Cause I'm a heterosexual man.

    Odds "Heterosexual Man"




    Fun, Freedom, fucking and fitness since 1976

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Boyfriend View Post
    Thanks for posting these. That Chopan post on convo threads was a real lightbulb thread for me at teh time and I need to re-address it to break a sticking point. His frame of "she's already mine" is solid gold and what I can do when I'm at my best, just playing with the frame, with the convo.
    I'm reading through those post right now and just read this, and it looks very good. This is absolutely not how I handle conversations. No wonder mine goes nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mago View Post
    I'm reading through those post right now and just read this, and it looks very good. This is absolutely not how I handle conversations. No wonder mine goes nowhere.
    The times when I have been able to totally step up my convo game has been when I just go on a stream-of-consciousness type rip with a little mindfucking, changing topics and focus suddenly, totally self-amused and getting them flustered as they try to decipher where the hell this is going (drugs may or may not have been involved ;-). This is verbal peacocking relative to all the logical, left-brain convo they get from most guys.

    Where I have fucked even THIS up is having that certainty that Chopan has that this all is going to end in bed with her on the receiving end of my cock, her mind having long ago given up on ASD or rational resistance as I lead her each tangential step of the way.

    I am going to make this the new focus of my next few month's game:

    **Mindfucking**

    I wanna get every SHB on the globe
    We kiss and hug and then we disrobe
    It's a short circuit in the frontal lobe
    'Cause I'm a heterosexual man.

    Odds "Heterosexual Man"




    Fun, Freedom, fucking and fitness since 1976

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    I have been searching lately for a resource on kino, and the links here are perfect
    I particularly recommend DiCarlo's, lots of good insights.

    Very helpful, thanks!




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    Anybody subscribed to this thread should take a second look at the initial post. Because of the positive feedback I've received, I decided to add the second half of what I've figured out. Tell me what you think.

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    the links don't work for me... anyplace else where I could find the articles?

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    Also absoultely classic: Franco on neediness http://www.scribd.com/doc/4719588/Neediness-Management

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    My favourite post on escalation:

    Rapid Escalation

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